But Maestro SB32 - I digress, that all-pervading flute formant we heard in the sound file included by NYCFarmboy.......what about that? Of course, the naming of a stop can be quite arbitrary and would reflect the intentions of the voicer/finisher of this rank. An analogy: A gemshorn sings "cone, cone, cone" - NYC's rank sings "phone, phone, phone". What say you dear SB32?
I would go with "Solo Diapason" or Full Swell Diapason, or Euphone whatever that was in the old reed organs.[:)] It would just be another stop name. I remember Wurlitzer used the term Tenor Trumpet 8'[I] in the lower manual of a great number of their reed organs, and also Woodwind in one large tube console as well as on the lower manual of the smaller budget home organs.
I don't really know what the woodwind stop sounded like, nor do I remember a Tenor Trumpet from band. I guess it is just being somewhat unique. Hence, that is how I chose my handle here on the Organ Forum.
James
Baldwin Church Organ Model 48C
Baldwin Spinet 58R
Lowrey Spinet SCL
Wurlitzer 4100A
Crown Pump Organ by Geo. P. Bent, Chicago, Illinois
Organs I hope to obtain in the future:
Conn Tube Minuet or Caprice even a transistor Caprice with the color coded tabs
Gulbransen H3 or G3, or V.
Wurlitzer 44, 4410, 4420, ES Reed Models, 4300, 4500, Transistor Models
What an interesting thread. I am most eager to learn the final chosen stop name for this rank.
James
Baldwin Church Organ Model 48C
Baldwin Spinet 58R
Lowrey Spinet SCL
Wurlitzer 4100A
Crown Pump Organ by Geo. P. Bent, Chicago, Illinois
Organs I hope to obtain in the future:
Conn Tube Minuet or Caprice even a transistor Caprice with the color coded tabs
Gulbransen H3 or G3, or V.
Wurlitzer 44, 4410, 4420, ES Reed Models, 4300, 4500, Transistor Models
a big part of choosing the name will be how the stop sounds in the house. When I recorded it at the church in my opinion the entire opus 412 was very tubby and NOT powerful at all and of course was boxed up in a swell chamber with only 4 strangely narrow swell shade openings. I suspect the organ will sound radically different in my house as it will be liberated and perhaps the character of the stop will be more towards a fancy name...I do tend to agree that perhaps just "diapason" is just fine unless it sounds much different after I get it going.
Timeline for the reinstall is optimistically a month or so....so will post back then..but by all means keep the suggestions coming! :)
I checked in Irwin's Dictionary of Pipe Organ Stops, and came up with this name which was in the back of my head. "Diapason Phonon"[I] - You might check it out on doing a Google Search of Dictionary of Pipe Organs Stops which gives the same info as my book. I remembered this term from old theater pipe organs, and from your descriptions in an earlier post this stop might just fit when you get the rank installed.
James
PS - I used to help a reed organ restorer name the various stops as well as make substitutions when noreplacementlabel could be found from the list of available stops labels. I enjoyed this tremendously, and the organ is one of my greatest hobbies. I do like to play some too, but find the study of organ most interesting as well as fascinating.
Jas
Baldwin Church Organ Model 48C
Baldwin Spinet 58R
Lowrey Spinet SCL
Wurlitzer 4100A
Crown Pump Organ by Geo. P. Bent, Chicago, Illinois
Organs I hope to obtain in the future:
Conn Tube Minuet or Caprice even a transistor Caprice with the color coded tabs
Gulbransen H3 or G3, or V.
Wurlitzer 44, 4410, 4420, ES Reed Models, 4300, 4500, Transistor Models
It is definitely a Diapason, but if you are looking for another name to reflect the soft volume of the stop, you could call it Minor Diapason or something like that.
I still think something like Fred, Ethel or Thelma would be good, but they of course don't tell you anything about the stop, but then it could be the house organist's secret (i.e.this summer someone might ask John how he got such a lovely, flutey sound, and he could tell tham "Thelma/Ethel/Fred/insert name of choice here"
[quote user="Mendelssohn"]It is definitely a Diapason, but if you are looking for another name to reflect the soft volume of the stop, you could call it Minor Diapason or something like that.
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The Audsley Diapason Phonon such as at West Point in the Solo on 10'' wind does not have leather. Hope-Jones phonons did and the idea was to make the upper lip flat and not angled or beveled.
There is another generic solution from the early 20th century; namely "Second Open Diapason", Though it was used mostly within the same division as the "First Open Diapason". Although most often the1st would be "horny" and the 2nd "Stringy", I believe I ran across the reverse at one point.
But of course it is more fun to specualte about "Bass Whistle" or "DolceVitaphone"[:$]
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