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  • #46
    Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops

    the scale is big the mouths r not arched and the taper is minimal so thats part of y they r not fluty and they remind me of something mollerish

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    • #47
      Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops

      interesting info! :) They are the softest rank on the organ, and I think will be very very very useful.

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      • #48
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        Greetings,



            So, what's the nature of the dead notes for your new additions?  Are these pitman chests or unit chests?



         



                 - Nate 

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        • #49
          Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops



          Steve, the mouths are arched.



           Nate, these are pitman chests.  The dead notes are magnet issues, I'm fairly sure. 

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          • #50
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            Greetings,



             



                   So the dead notes are literally dead notes (across all ranks) as opposed to dead pipes?



             



                      - N 

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            • #51
              Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops

              short answer: YES....


              correct....there are 3 divisions in that 412 chest:


              A Great, a Swell, and a "unit" rank.


              Great has 3 ranks, Swell has 4 ranks, plus the unit rank.



              In it's original home the Great had: the 42 Scale Diapason (which I call the Grand Diapason)....a Melodia 8' and a Dulciana 8'.




              The "Swell" had 4 ranks: Salicional, Voix Celeste, Violin Diapason and a Oboe.



              And there was a unit Bourdon rank...that on this chest was 8' thru 2'.


              The Spitsflote sits where the Bourdon 8' was. (the Bourdon 2' pipes fill in for the missing spitz pipes)....and the Spitz Celeste sits where the Dulciana was on the Great chest....with the original Dulciana's bottom octave filling in for the "missing" bottom notes of that rank.




              The dead notes affect ALL pipes in the Great. I'd say there must be 12 or so dead notes at least.....on the Swell side there are about maybe 2 or 3 dead notes or ciphers...and on the unit chest I think all work except where a pipe or two doesn't fit into the new rack yet. :)

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              • #52
                Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops

                ok...just to update this thread:



                This stop was installed on the pipe organ over the summer..originally it was at 4 inches of wind....and as I think Trevor would attest..it was sooooooooooo beautiful and soft at that wind pressure....it was a really grand sound, thus I went with the Grand Diapason name...

                This last fall we adjusted the pressure on the chest to 6 inches....for tuning reasons more than anything else...I have a Melodia rank on the same chest that really has to be at 6 inches to be in tune with the rest of the organ.


                So..when we bumped the pressure up the soft warm flutey diapason which blended SOOOOOOO beautifully with everything now has become a pretty standard warm romantic diapason.

                A recording of this rank at 6 inches is at:

                http://www.reuter822.com/granddiapason.html


                The dead note issue was resolved by releathering parts of the chest and also just some electrical issues from the actions not being used for ages.

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                • #53
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                  Wish I could feel the beauty and softness of your Grand Diapason (even at 6 inches w.p.) wash over me, coming up the stairs into my bedroom every morning, NYCFarmboy [8] [8]

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                  • #54
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                    Beautiful!! While it's difficult to convert my impression of thesound of these pipes into words, the best I can come up with,is:They sing like a breathy mezzo soprano! And for me, that represents thepinnacle of musical beauty!




                    You seem to be rather accomplished and at ease with website creation and modification. Would it be at all inconvenient to createsome sort of back door to your website for some of us on the Forum,to hear a dry rendition of the same instrument?




                    I can't presume to figure that this would be of interest to manyon this Forum; but these pipes are so idealistic, that I would really like to hear them close up and personal, withoutthe finer nuanances being obliterated by post processing. ??

                    2008: Phoenix III/44

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                    • #55
                      Re: Nomenclature for Diapason stops

                      I'll make a little movie with my digital camera......it has great audio that I think would characterize the organ best how it sounds in person! Should have that by tomorrow :)

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                      • #56
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                        [quote user="NYCFarmboy"]I'll make a little movie with my digital camera......it has great audio that I think would characterize the organ best how it sounds in person! Should have that by tomorrow :)[/quote]




                        Looking forward to it!




                        But you bring up a whole different consideration:digitalcameras!!




                        From the stuff I've observedon the net, there are obviously some really good cameras andsome really crappy ones! Within the maze, is there a single video camerawithin the the within the entireheap that youcouldrecommend, that doesn't suffer from video overload?

                        2008: Phoenix III/44

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                        • #57
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                          Please do some filming. I am so envious that you have a house organ.[*]

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                          • #58
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                            Hi Clarian...believe it or not I like shooting with a Canon SD1000... it will shoot in standard definition u.s. television format and the audio is not half bad. And it is about the size of a deck of cards.




                            That is fine for television (making DVD's etc) and of course way more than adequite for web.



                            Greg...it is a bug/illness..but it is wonderful. I started out with a 5 rank unit organ...i'm up to 21 ranks now...I think I can squeese in a few more ranks but I've definately lost my hosue to the organ...so much so a local t.v. station heard about it and filmed here yesterday! If anyone is in the Louisville, KY t.v. area it will air on Monday on WDRB Fox 41..if they post it on their website I'll be sure and link it here somewhere.

                            The theme of their story was "man surrenders house to organ"....lol

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                            • #59
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                              Isn't it an oxymoron to call somthing both "grand" and "soft"?

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                              • #60
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                                [quote user="Clarion"]

                                You seem to be rather accomplished and at ease with website creation and modification. Would it be at all inconvenient to create some sort of back door to your website for some of us on the Forum, to hear a dry rendition of the same instrument?



                                I can't presume to figure that this would be of interest to many on this Forum; but these pipes are so idealistic, that I would really like to hear them close up and personal, without the finer nuanances being obliterated and munged by post processing. ??



                                [/quote]



                                 AGREED!!!  I honestly think it sounds better in person than with the 3 hours of "reverb!" 

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