Big Bourdons

[F Kalbrenner]

I also feel that anther huge problem is not just having an open 32' rank but also the issue of having enough bass to help round out huge amounts of space and also support a large organ. One instrument I have been thinking about for a while is the organ at the Crystal Cathedral. According to an article from the Diapason the organ had a number of digital stops added over the years to help reinforce the pedal division due to poor acoustics

https://www.thediapason.com/content/cover-feature-84

Oh I just remembered another example of an organ the was expanded with digital stops witch is the Schuke organ at the Kaiser Wilhelm Memorial Church in Germany.

https://www.die-orgelseite.de/disp/D...tniskirche.htm

[F Kalbrenner]

There is also something that just came to mind about a video of the organist Jean Baptiste Monnot playing on his portable organ (Orgue Du Voyage).

The quality of the video is a bit average but the thing I'm curious about is towards the end of the video it sounds like there is some sort of bass sound at 32' pitch.
Unfortunately the specification for this organ isn't available, so it's hard to get an idea of what stops he may have been using in the pedals. And of course it's unlikely to be an actual full length 32' pipes in this organ, unless it's some sort of reed stop with really short resonators.

But anyway what I'm really curious about is what does everyone ells thinks, does it sound like there is a convincing 32' sound towards the end of the video?

[jbird604]

The 32' is at least hinted at, but not very much fun, unless it's far better in person than in this recording! His concept of a traveling real-pipe organ is commendable, and for the most part much more ear-pleasing than, for example, Cameron Carpenter's traveling digital. BUT -- he would do his audience a favor by adding a couple of large subwoofer cabinets projecting some profound 16' and 32' digital pedal stops to balance the rich and soaring tones of the very nice pipes. Shouldn't be hard to make room in his truck for a couple of big subs and a small rack for the generator and amps.

[myorgan]

But anyway what I'm really curious about is what does everyone ells thinks, does it sound like there is a convincing 32' sound towards the end of the video?

Check out this post by Bill. The linked article is very informational, if hard to read (white on black)!

Michael

[jbird604]

Here's a link to article that Michael refers to:

http://www.stephenbicknell.org/3.6.01.php

[myorgan]

You wait! Old age with catch up with y'all eventually–then see how it is. Fortunately, I have some great people in the backup crew! Online teaching is highly overrated (& exhausting).

Michael

[F Kalbrenner]

Oh yes of course.

[voet]

This is a comment about the video that F Kalbrenner posted above. I did not make a comment on that post because it would not allow me to include the link below.

An early concept for Jean Guillou's portable organ includes a Gross Quinte 10 2/3. When used with one or more 16' stops in the pedal, could produce the effect that you are hearing.

Here is a link to a post about Gillou's instrument when it was in the concept stage. It is my understanding that it was enlarged a bit from this when it was actually built.

http://cdmnet.org/Julian/schemes/ideal/variab.htm

[myorgan]

I did not make a comment on that post because it would not allow me to include the link below.

The Forum will automatically provide the address for links in comments. You just don't have the toolbars available to create one on your own.

Michael

[F Kalbrenner]

This is a comment about the video that F Kalbrenner posted above. I did not make a comment on that post because it would not allow me to include the link below.

An early concept for Jean Guillou's portable organ includes a Gross Quinte 10 2/3. When used with one or more 16' stops in the pedal, could produce the effect that you are hearing.

Here is a link to a post about Gillou's instrument when it was in the concept stage. It is my understanding that it was enlarged a bit from this when it was actually built.

http://cdmnet.org/Julian/schemes/ideal/variab.htm

Oh yeah that's probably what was creating the 32' illusion.

Regarding the OSV proposal there was one thing in the concept art that I am a little curious about which is that in the design there appears to be large a set of wooden pipes and I'm wondering maybe he did later decide to add on an actual 32' stop to the instrument.

There is also a video that was uploaded recently about Jean Guillou which includes an interview where they go over the actual plans of this organ.
Unfortunately the video doesn't have any English subtitles but the person who up loaded the video has stated that the English subtitles are coming.

[aeolian pat]

Don't forget the most important stop is the room.