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    #2
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    Lucky you! I've not played those.




    Of the ones I've played (not that many, unfortunately) I might pick St. Mary the Virgin, NYC, Trinity Church, Boston (though it is a mixture of several different instruments), or Grace Cathedral, San Francisco.




    Methuen is also 'up there', since it is such a famous and historic instrument (but difficult to play).

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      #3
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      Mormon Tabernacle Organ. Beware playing trumpet solos using the Trompette Harmonique - the pipes are on the side of the case opposite where the console is. What happens is that you hear the accompaniment 1 second after you play - and the trumpet solo 3 seconds after you play. Brain meltdown follows.

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        #4
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        [quote user="soubasse32"]Methuen is also 'up there', since it is such a famous and historic instrument (but difficult to play).[/quote]





        Is that organ difficult to play for the same reason the Tabernacle organ is difficult to play? (pedal flies right over your head, and the sound doesn't properly mix until about 30 feet from the organist, resulting in the organist hearing a fairly chaotic mix of sounds)

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          #5
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          Love that recording of Holst's Planets on the Girard College E. M. Skinner!

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              #7
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              Well, I've only played one Skinner/Aeolian-Skinner, the organ(s) in the sanctuary at Church of the Covenant in Cleveland. The core of the instrument is a 1930 E.M. Skinner, rebuilt in 1958-59 when the gallery organ (2 man + Ped) was installed. The whole thing was rebuilt in 1996 by Holtkamp, but is still very much a Skinner/Aeolian Skinner (Holtkamp added a couple stops and provided a new main console with Solid State and MIDI). The church is within spitting distance of Severance Hall (1929 Skinner op.816), the Cleveland Museum of Art (was originally a Skinner, but was rebuilt several times by Holtkamp, the current form is a 1971 Holtkamp) Epworth-Euclid UMC (known to locals as the Holy Oil Can for the shape of part of the building, the organ there was originally a Skinner but was rebuilt by Holtkamp in 1954) and a couple of other institutions in the University Circle area.

              I thought that the organ at Covenant was pretty neat, not entirely my thing, but certainly nice, I think it was slightly unnerving to see many classic Holtkamp features controling Skinner pipework, the most potent reed on this thing is the 8' Hooded Trumpet, I think it's in the gallery, but I'm not sure, but boy, that thing is LOUD. I heard it first hand in the Gallery when Todd Wilson was demoing the organ for a couple of people.

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                #8
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                [quote user="Stefanussen"][quote user="soubasse32"]Methuen is also 'up there', since it is such a famous and historic instrument (but difficult to play).[/quote]Is that organ difficult to play for the same reason the Tabernacle organ is difficult to play? (pedal flies right over your head, and the sound doesn't properly mix until about 30 feet from the organist, resulting in the organist hearing a fairly chaotic mix of sounds)
                [/quote]That describes it rather well. A lot of the pipework is below the impost level,and it is very difficult to hear parts of the organ. One must have help when registering pieces. It is an odd acoustic too...

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                  #9
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                  todd wilson says the solo has the ems pipework




                  the other divisions have some but are largely recast as aeolian-skinner




                  i had several discussions before the holtkamp deal with wilson




                  the tonal finishing in the chancel especially the great is less than satisfactory imo




                  the gallery enclosed is an original skinner division with some new material in 1959




                  the petit bombarde 32 in the pedal up front is the revoiced skinner fagotto 32




                  the violone 32 by walker technical is quite nice




                  the gallery trumpet is english and the solo trompette is a-s modified french




                  they are both on 10'' wind




                  wilson quit a post in cincinnati that dumped a 1959 a-s and went with an all-new organ by another co




                  riverside in nyc and st bart in manhattan are 2 of my favorite a-s organs




                  gil adams did some nice work at riverside and later 2 ex- a-s men supplied tony bufano with much new pipework circa 1978-80




                  st bart is preserved rather nearly to its 1971 sound




                  riverside is a work in progress




                  latest are the new dark chocolate tuba mirabilis and the positiv unit 16 and 4 holzregal /trumpet musette

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                    Doyou approve of the revoicing work that has been done?

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                      Doyou approve of the revoicing work that has been done?




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                      GIRARD WAS SIGNED 1931 AS THE VERY LAST CONTRACT UNDER SKINNER ORGAN CO




                      INSTALLATION IN 1933 AS WELL AS SCALING ETC WERE UNDER EMS




                      harry bsnks was organist




                      bruce schultz tells about how ems was going deaf




                      banks wanted the gt erzahlers to be soft




                      ems kept having them loudened




                      finally banks told the voicer how he wanted them and next visit ems said see




                      they are better now that they are louder haha




                      girard was ems last big job




                      in 1935 he did the christ church job in philly an aeolian from the curtiss estate




                      the nameplate at girard says skinner




                      riverside




                      mixed emotions as to voicing


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                        #12
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                        this is an EASY one:

                        The Aeolian-Skinner at St. Mary the Virgin, NYC.








                        perfect marriage of a brilliant French organ in a stunning beyond live accoustic (I've never been in a more reverberant space in the USA).


                        I've been in alot of churches and played alot of organs...nothing else to date has came close to the thrill of this one.

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                          #13
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                          parts of the organ at trinity college hartford conn 1931 [gdh's first job where he felt free to depart from ems practice] has found its way into smokey mary




                          the hartford organ was replaced in 1971 by austin retaining an 1880s 32 open wood by roosevelt and very low cuttup




                          the smokey gdh is the first to have all chorus reeds using the modified french-type shallot circa 1933




                          it was circa 1934 that gdh toured the continent and saw some nice things and thus he began his revival efforts upon return to the states in the 30s he and emerson richards vacationed and talked of low pressure french-type trompettes as low as 3-1/2'' or even less such as the 1936 job at calvary on park ave [ calvin hamptons place] where the reeds in the swell of the new french type are on circa 3''




                          the smokey swell reeds were intended to go into the bombarde later so they may be of the #2 a-s french which would be a wider diameter shallot and throat




                          the tabernacle has #2 french on the swell reeds




                          in the 70s a-s offered an extensive proposal to rebuild the tabernacle organ including replacing all the #2 french sw chorus reeds




                          the proposal never flew




                          the reeds still there are the #2 french but slightly revised by schoenstein in 1988

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                            #14
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                            [quote user="NYCFarmboy"]this is an EASY one: The Aeolian-Skinner at St. Mary the Virgin, NYC. perfect marriage of a brilliant French organ in a stunning beyond live accoustic (I've never been in a more reverberant space in the USA). I've been in alot of churches and played alot of organs...nothing else to date has came close to the thrill of this one.[/quote]I dunno... maybe Grace Cathedral would give it a run for the money - it is a larger organ in a larger acoustic. The 32' stops are awe-inspiring and there is a new high-pressure Tuba that is appropriately regal. I might post a recording of it if there is any interest... [*-)]

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                              http://www.agohq.org/2006/html/venues.html

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