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  • myorgan
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    TP,

    Great idea with the incense. I'll have to remember that.

    Michael

  • TPLeavitt
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    I ordered some off Amazon, should be here before the end of the week.

    As for a video, I'll definitely see if I can knock one out and get it posted here. Im guessing I'll most likely have to upload it to youtube and link to it here. There's still some air leaks to deal with, I definitely have to pump more than I do for my Beckwith. I'll have to get some incense going again when its not going to annoy anybody else, thats the best trick I've found for tracing vacuum leaks as long as you can see the smoke.

  • TPLeavitt
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    Michael, Those are unusual reeds. They dont have the crescent reed hook slot so many of use are used to. They almost look more like some harmonium reeds based on what Ive seen, though I am definitely no expert.

    Tom, I spoke to his daughter on the phone last week but have not heard back yet. I may try him again tomorrow after work too see if he has anything.

  • myorgan
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    You may possibly find some in the Pharmacy section as well.

    Michael

  • nutmegct
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    TP - were you able to contact Nelson Pease regarding reed replacements?

  • myorgan
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    I found these reeds on CL, but I'd imagine it's potluck finding any of the reeds you need to replace the broken ones (https://nh.craigslist.org/msg/d/hamp...132074769.html). Hope it helps.

    Michael

  • nutmegct
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    Weird that there's no ammonia. Usually half gallon bottles of it are in the cleaning products (or laundry detergents) section of the supermarket.

    How 'bout a video of how the organ sounds, now that you've made so many improvements? Also help to see you work the treadles while playing, to indicate the air leak situation.

    Tom M.

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  • TPLeavitt
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    Well, more work on the organ! For whatever reason, ammonia is not available around here right now. Everywhere I’ve checked is sold out and no idea why. So that’ll have to wait till later.
    Ive got the mutes opening and closing like I’d like now. Took some fiddling to get where I want. The way some of the linkages were set, the mutes would barely open on some full stops. I think I’ve got that rectified now and most of the stop mechanism has been reset. One thing about the Beatty’s, their action is very adjustable! But that also means there’s more spots to get loose and the action get thrown off.
    Still need to get into the swells and the coupler, but those are getting there. The coupler is a strange design, must be early because it is not a standard finger coupler like most organs have. There’s a picture of it on here somewhere, it’s levers that hit further up the key and then have pins going through the stickers/pitmans to couple the octave. It also only couples the treble going up. No bass coupler on this organ. The lifter is stiff still so that’s going to take some working and maybe a new spring to get right.
    I also played with the tremolo some and it’s weird. It definitely knocks the volume down and it’s not as pleasing of an effect as the fan style. But maybe I can dial it in better, just need to play around more.
    Work continues! Not much to show in photos right now though unless there’s anything specific you guys want to see.

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  • myorgan
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    TP,

    You may want to close the window blinds so you get a better photo. Background lighting doesn't work well–makes it difficult to see the details of your work.

    Michael

  • myorgan
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    Valiant Farmer,

    Is there any particular gauge piano string you prefer? Alternately, strings from which notes? Certainly none of the wound bass strings or the upper octaves.

    Michael

  • myorgan
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    Your pictures make me think you're from "down under?"

    Michael

  • TPLeavitt
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    Good to know! I’ll pick up some liquid ammonia when I get a chance and give it a shot. I’ll test it on the broken reeds first since they’re useless in the instrument now.
    I like the wider opening mutes as well, especially for the sub bass reeds. They need a lot of air to sound as it is. I’ll have to play around with the action and see how much opening I can get safely and practically.
    Sounds like the clapper isn’t worth much other than a novelty, which is ok. Even the fan tremolo in my Beckwith only gets used rarely, that sound just doesn’t fit much music.

  • TPLeavitt
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    Thanks for the tip! I’ll have to see if I can find some piano wire around here. I don’t think my mom would be real happy about me stealing some off her old Steinway!

  • Valiant Farmer
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    For the mute springs - use piano strings, and bend them to the correct shape. I have used this method successfully. Bend the first sharp angle, insert it into the first hole, then bend the second end a quarter turn 'in', thus spring loading it when installed.

  • nutmegct
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    You are making progress!

    Really glad you've found and fixed the "shallow key drop" problem.

    You do have to play around with the tremolo weight and wire - moving the weight back and forth on the wire changes the speed of the "flutter". Speed will also change depending on strength of suction. But from the few organs I've played and heard, I think the fan system is definitely more pleasing. The bleating "clapper" system is more a special effect, which I only felt useful when playing Sheep May Safely Graze.

    Definitely no Brasso; just a bit of ammonia in warm water with a few drops of detergent. Then a good rinse and air dry on both side (I lay the reed on wire racks for good air circulation.

    By the way, I actually modified the action on the swell mutes, so they opened farther than first designed. I liked the wider range of volume this permitted.

    Tom M.

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