Hammond CV with D-20 cab value

[MorganEarlJones]

There is a Hammond CV with a D-20 tone cabinet at a local church that I'd like to make an offer on, but I don't know how much these older console models are worth. It's in nearly immaculate, and it starts up very smoothly, but I didn't have an opportunity to play through the cabinet, as it was in the back room at the time. I would greatly appreciate some advice on pricing. I already own 9 Hammond Organs, so I'm stressed for room. If I can, I'd like to sell most of the Spinets(L-112, T-400, M-111, R-124, 123, M2, H-112) on Craigslist, and just have a CV, B3, and A-100 to work with.

[indianajo]

see this thread http://www.organforum.com/forums/sho...amp-Leslie-247

[NYCFarmboy]

hi there......CV's are probably the most plentiful Hammond standard console organ made......there are a gazillion of them on ebay....check ebay for COMPLETED sales for a fair price, but ballpark in my opinion is between 250.00 to no more than 600.00

The D20 should be included with the organ at that price. By itself it may be worth 50 to 100 dollars... D20's are just not overly sought models..they produce nice enough tone, but a PR40 will sound much nicer..brighter treble and deeper bass.

I personally think the D20's are very cool....

The CV won't sound like a true Hammond until you get a Leslie on it..preferably a 122, but a 147 can be modified to work with it.

Those are pricey...1000 or so for a Leslie 122 ballpark. maybe 50 less for a 147.

Before you haul it out hook up the speaker and make sure it all works. If it works, and EACH note plays and all drawbars work (run thru each one for every note to make sure. If it has dead notes, or doesn't work, you'll have to spend some time on it...non working or partially working CV's have little value in my opinion.

Its a classic Hammond though and has all the sound you could want...you could modify it with Trek percussion to bring it up to B3 sound. Won't have the split vibrato for each manual, but thats not too big a deal....especially with a Leslie 122 as then you'd rarely use the Vibrato anyhow.

A cheaper option would be a Leslie 51 or Tallboy 31H......those are "fast or stopped"..but thats another topic. :)

good luck and when you move it have 4 people with you if you have to deal with stairs. If its ALL flat and you have access to kari-all rollers then two can do it provided you can ramp it into however you are hauling it. CV's weigh ALOT.

:)

[MorganEarlJones]

Luckily I've got a spare $290 at the moment. I've got a Leslie 147 to work with, and a single speed single rotor Leslie made from an old Gulbransen(which I'll soon attempt to upgrade to a dual rotor/dual speed Leslie using a spare horn motor stack and a motor stack from a T-400), but if I can't find time right away to rig up a line out, I've got an HR-40 I could chain the D-20 to. I shouldn't have any problem rooting out any problems like bad drawbars or contacts. I was also wondering if the CV has foldback on the higher frequencies or not. I almost bought a CV with Trek II percussion a few years back, and it was a very decent machine, but I decided to pay an extra $400 for the B3. The church is completely flat, so I think I could get away with 3 people, so long as it's not as heavy as an H-112. Thank you very much, NYCFarmboy and Indianajo! I'm glad to see that this forum is as helpful as it used to be!

[NYCFarmboy]

:) I don't know anything about foldback of HIGHER frequencies, but on my CV the lowest octave (16' drawbar) is folded back from the Tenor C octave).

Some people like the deep bass of a NON folded back bottom octave, others find it muddies things and prefer the 8' folded down again. Irregardless, the CV I think you will find to be quite nice.

[Guest]

Being the man who rigged up the 147 to NYCFarmboy's CV, I can tell you you'll need to find a B+ source in order to power the preamplifier in the console, if you want to go the 147 route. In this case the leslie was modified to have a B+ out on pin 5, but clearly labeled so. Would not want to cause an accidental meltdown when hooked to another organ. External B+ supplies are very much preferred.

[toasterDude]

In this case the leslie was modified to have a B+ out on pin 5, but clearly labeled so. Would not want to cause an accidental meltdown when hooked to another organ.

Three cheers for OG010 on this point. I had the pleasure of finding out by surprise that my 145 had been modded this way... thankfully, not a nasty surprise!

td

[MorganEarlJones]

I think I might just make the line out from the balanced output of the D-20(if it has one like some other tone cabinets) and just run the tone cab and leslie at the same time, until I have the confidence to build a B+ power supply.