This was discussed many times, but what is your suggestion for getting famous overdriven organ sound?
I have an effects loop installed in my A100 and tried a guitar overdrive that sounds too thin.
I like the Boss 'Fender Bassman' pedal on Hammond,and the Boss 'Fender Deluxe Reverb' pedal on Rhodes/Wurly EP's.
Just enough edge taken off to grind a bit.There are as many stompboxes as personal tastes,I found the ProCo Rat way over the top......for Hammond.
I can dig out a list of component replacements for geetar stompboxes if you like. (From Kon Zissis).
Guitar FX by necessity have to supress the bass. That probably makes it thin.
The ProCo would be OK if you want it to sound like a swarm of PO'd African killer bees. Otherwise that and most other guitar pedals would probably suck.... IMO
As far as overdrive and distortion stomp boxes go. The only one I would try would be a BK Butler Blue tube with a 12AU7. I used a rack mount Chandler Tube Driver with a 12AU7 with an old XB-2 rig and it could get too fuzzy sometimes.
On my L100's i use the Boss METAL ZONE distortion...Gets alot of low-end grind plus when ya crank the Leslie..Oh the GLORIES of Tonewheel FEEDBACK!!!!! Lovely!!!! :-)
1963 Hammond L101"Charlie" ...1962 Hammond L102 Chop "BUCKY" .. "HOT ROD" Leslie 720.. Stock ( for the moment) Leslie Proline 825
I like on the T500 how you can put a pot on the input of the preamp and turn it up, means the organ itself adds a good marshall style distortion without even using FX.
Not really that much into overdrive,but my Boss CE-1 chorus,and Boss RE-20 Space Echo,along with the Boss 'Bassman' give me everything I'll need for FX.I use these on the dry non-Leslie 1/4" out,
of the A100.
The Boss RV5 digital reverb on the "Modulate" setting sounds pretty sweet.. I use that same setting on both my stock L101 ( line-out from the swell pedal) and my passive L102 chop... Deeper and "wetter sounding then the stock L verb imo
1963 Hammond L101"Charlie" ...1962 Hammond L102 Chop "BUCKY" .. "HOT ROD" Leslie 720.. Stock ( for the moment) Leslie Proline 825
This was discussed many times, but what is your suggestion for getting famous overdriven organ sound?
I have an effects loop installed in my A100 and tried a guitar overdrive that sounds too thin.
OD is a very subjective thang. I don't know about famous but I favor the sound of a 122 amp retubed and rebiased for 6CA7s. A gentle distortion onset with none of the 6550s crackle.
You know I've tried a few overdrive pedals, but I had the same "thin" sounding problem. I went out and bought a fuzz pedal instead. It made a huge difference, since the Mastotron Fuzz pedal (by Zvex) has like 3 different bass boosting options! I really like it. Go real light on the fuzz though, it can sound really lame really fast haha.
I don't plug straight into the organ though. I mic the Leslie(the mic is plugged into my amp), then put the fuzz into the effects loop on my amp.
Ya know. I've been listening to Jon Lord and Keith Emerson lately, and it seems that the distortion is achieved by playing really F'ing loud. Admittedly I don't want to copy their sound (although I appreciate it) but would like to experiment with more distortion. I don't want to go deaf or blow anything either. To recreate that sound with a box or software is something I too will experiment with. I was thinking. Start with a good, loud distortion out of the Leslie, record it, and then experiment with different amp modeling, distortion software in Nuendo. It is indeed a noble gesture me thinks.
I can wholeheartedly reccomend a Vox Big Ben overdrive, and I use this pedal on the effects loop of both my organs, T500 and E100. It uses an actual valve for the overdrive, and most important it is really transparent. With gain set low, there is almost no loss of tone. When you increase gain you get something that sounds like an overdriven 147. The important thing is that both low end and high end passes through at all levels of drive. This is rarely the case with overdrive pedals, as they tend to emphasise mid-range. The Vox Big Ben pedal can be had cheap. I think it never achieved the succes that it was meant to as a guitar pedal, but it rules for organ! Changing the valve also makes a lot of difference on this pedal, so maybe it is best considered an overdrivable valve pre-amp. I tried it with a Tungsram I have, and it immediately sounded dirtier.
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