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  • Hammond A-100 / Leslie 51C, 810 / connectivity, buzz / hum, and 2 speed inquiries

    Hey gang,


    First, I would like to say thank you to those taking the time to read this and respond, help out with the inquiry.

    I have an A-100, and a 51C. Everything I am about to state is the way that I got the organ. Everything works at the moment, but not the cleanest, and I'd like to rectify.


    Scenario 1, is connecting the A-100 to the 51C. Out of the back of the A-100, is a regular guitar cable, soldered directly to pins on the preamp. power tubes appear to be removed from the power amp, to prevent sound from coming out of the A-100 Cabinet. This guitar cable then plugs into what appears to be a home-brew looking interconnect box on the Leslie. This interconnect box has an IEC power connector, and 2 1/4" inputs. One for a footswitch, which selects stop and fast for the Leslie 51C, and the other 1/4" is for audio input. If I plug in a guitar to the leslie, the noise and buzz is relatively quiet. When I plug in the Hammond via its hard-wired guitar cable, it's quite buzzy and noisy. Is there supposed to be any resistors or anything soldered or connected anywhere on the back of the Hammond? Does it matter if it's a guitar cable, vs a speaker cable? I presume guitar cable is preferred for its insulation. Is there more than 1 tap out option on the back of the Hammond? If so, which one is ideal and most appropriate?

    Second scenario, is that I have a Leslie 810, with the combo preamp. If I plug the hardwired guitar cable straight into the combo preamp, it too is pretty buzzy and hummy. Would some form of resistor or something alleviate that?

    Is there a more proper way to interconnect the Hammond & The Leslie, without having to go the leslie cable route? I don't have one, and would like to work with what I've got, just clean up the signal.


    Lastly, I would like to have the 51C be two speed. As a relative newbie, searching around and trying to conclude what the best option for this is, I bang my head against the wall. Caribbean controls, swapping motors out, other relay companies, places that are out of business, etc etc. Just looking for the most economical and practical solution, again, factoring in to what is already in place if possible, to get the entire setup sounding clean, with 2 speed availability.

    I realize that when I mention a home-brew junction box on the Leslie, without photos, likely adds an element to this troubleshooting. That being said, if necessary, I can get some photos posted here on this thread to help.

    Thanks!


    ~Nick
    http://www.nickbearden.com

    Organs: A-100 (x2)
    C-2

    Leslies: 51C
    125
    825

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    Still looking to attempt to clean this signal chain up a bit... BUMP! :)
    http://www.nickbearden.com

    Organs: A-100 (x2)
    C-2

    Leslies: 51C
    125
    825

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    • #3
      Is the audio taking an unbalanced signal from the preamp? 51c needs unbalanced signal.

      Are the wires in the 1/4 inch pigtail wired correctly( hot and ground audio) to correct tip and ring?

      Two of the first to eliminate on your list

      - - - Updated - - -

      Running the audio signal from the console preamp to the Leslie combo preamp to the Leslie is Always noisy. You don't need Leslie preamp in chain. Once again you need to build a connector box for a 9 pin Leslie.
      Pin one ground audio
      Pin two hot audio
      Pin six fast?
      Pin seven slow?
      Pin eight gray ac
      Pin nine blue ac

      I can't remember which is which for pins 6 and seven.

      Lots of pinout lists and roll your own connector boxes.
      "Anyone in love with a 300lb inanimate object has got to be cracked!" The Drummer who has helped me carry the organs for 10yrs.
      :-)64 A143, 2 Leslie 147's, 122, 825 ,710, 130. 3 M3's, Hammond S1 chord organ (down sizing has begun)

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      • #4
        The likelihood that we can solve a buzzing problem in a system we don't understand is pretty low.

        The best 2-speeding product currently on the market is the MTCLogic controller from George Benton.

        Wes

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        • #5
          My advice would be to get Murph Wanca at Nashville Pro Hammond to straighten it all out for you, especially if it's for use in a recording studio, making some assumptions based on your website.

          There's nothing worse for a player to show up at a studio and try to lay down organ tracks on a jury-rigged mess. And I've run into far too many studio owners who won't admit that their Hammond/Leslie rig is in pretty bad shape. I ran into one 145 in a studio where the horn driver needed diaphragm realignment because it sounded really raspy. The guitarist/owner said, "Oh, I thought it was supposed to sound like that."
          I'm David. 'Dave' is someone else's name.

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