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  • Baldwin D-911/912 - Need help identifying a part

    I need help identifying what part to get (if possible) to replace what looks to be a corroded battery in my Baldwin D-911. See the attached pictures. I didn't notice anything printed on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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  • #2
    Probably at least 3.6V (Ni-Cd or Ni.Mh).
    In many organs, the value of backup battery are 3.6V.
    Last edited by farfisas; 02-01-2025, 12:58 PM.

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    • #3
      jbird604, tucsondave, or Larrytow should know exactly what that is. All three of them have worked on Baldwin organs quite a bit when they were still being made.

      It doesn't look like a battery to me, however, it is located remotely, so perhaps it is, although I've never seen a battery like that before. One of them should weigh in soon.

      Michael
      Way too many organs to list, but I do have 5 Allens:
      • MOS-2 Model 505-B / ADC-4300-DK / ADC-5400 / ADC-6000 (Symphony) / ADC-8000DKC
      • Lowrey Heritage (DSO-1)
      • 11 Pump Organs, 1 Pipe Organ & 7 Pianos

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      • #4
        It could be 3 coin sized cells in series. at 1.2v each that would add to 3.6 volts
        Can't play an note but love all things "organ" Responsible for 2/10 Wurli pipe organ, Allen 3160(wife's), Allen LL324, Allen GW319EX, ADC4600, many others. E-organ shop to fund free organ lessons for kids.

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        • myorgan
          myorgan commented
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          The curious thing to me was the 2 "feet" at the top. I wonder why? Polarity?

          Michael

      • #5
        Looks like someone in the past moved the battery(s) off the circuit board to make replacement easier.
        Home organ, same as church's organ - Rodgers 940

        Sign on my work toolbox that effectively keeps people away:

        DANGER!!! 1,000,000 OHMS!!!

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        • #6
          Ive never seen that form factor in any organ as the backup battery before, but I agree with the others that it likely is a stack of coin batteries. It's good that someone remote mounted it too, but its quite a hack job of mounting and securing it. There is no way I would have left it that way if replacing it had been my job ! I'd say the only way to tell what it is would be to cut it open and look. Whatever it is, it is in bad shape and in need of replacement.
          Regards, Larry

          At Home : Yamaha Electones : EX-42 ( X 3 !!! ), E-5AR, FX-1 ( X 2 !! ), US-1, EL-25 ( Chopped ). Allen 601D, ADC 6000D. Lowrey CH32-1. At Churches I play for : Allen Q325 ( with Vista ), Allen L123 ( with Navigator ). Rodgers 755. 1919 Wangerin 2/7 pipe organ.

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          • #7
            Yes, it's a rechargeable battery. A lot of Italian organs and keyboards back in the early 90s used a battery like that.

            I'd replace it with a 3.6 volt shrink wrapped pack of three AAA rechargeables. I used to buy these at Walmart in the phone section. A lot of cordless home phones used a 3 pack AAA set.

            Be absolutely sure to get the polarity right when you install it.
            John
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            • #8
              Here is how I did it on an A-G SL-250. These cells have far more capacity than the organ needs, but the form factor suited me best:

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              Hammond M-102 #21000.
              Leslie 147 #F7453.
              Hammond S-6 #72421

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              • gtc
                gtc commented
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                They are AAA. (The sliding cover is half open.)
                Last edited by gtc; 02-04-2025, 08:11 PM. Reason: AAA not AA

              • myorgan
                myorgan commented
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                How odd! The printing on the cells appears to say AAA900mAh. Maybe I'm just seeing things.

                Is there an advantage of using AA over AAA cells?

                Michael

              • gtc
                gtc commented
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                Typo by me now fixed. They are AAA.

                At 900 mAh they have way more capacity than usual but, as a bonus, they can retain settings for a long time without mains power.

            • #9
              Here is another way of remote-mounting the usual type of battery, using an adhesive cable tie mount:

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              Hammond M-102 #21000.
              Leslie 147 #F7453.
              Hammond S-6 #72421

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              • #10
                And another method is via a plastic conduit saddle, if the diameter suits the particular battery:

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                Hammond M-102 #21000.
                Leslie 147 #F7453.
                Hammond S-6 #72421

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                • #11
                  Originally posted by rohrlover View Post
                  Looks like someone in the past moved the battery(s) off the circuit board to make replacement easier.
                  Yes, it is important to move the battery because when it leaks acid,
                  the card can be damaged beyond repair.
                  This is a good method to avoid damaging the card.

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                  • #12
                    By the time it released its AG2000 series organs, A-G had removed the battery from the PCB and mounted it on the cabinet shelf.
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                    Hammond M-102 #21000.
                    Leslie 147 #F7453.
                    Hammond S-6 #72421

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                    • #13
                      I just ordered one of these to replace the one on the AG Chronicler III I'm repairing. It looks like the same part.

                      https://www.newark.com/dantona-indus...ery/dp/19C9527

                      Andrew
                      Allen 301-B MOS-1

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